Diamond Member Pelican Press 0 Posted April 2 Diamond Member Share Posted April 2 ******’s hypersonic ‘Zircon’ super-******* has now seen combat. As a specialist, I’m not impressed The This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up . Nato surface-navy warfare officers – my old job – train against their ship-killers constantly and there are so many types, it takes a while to learn their individual characteristics so that you can instinctively defend against them. The good news is that in missile warfare, especially dealing with Russian weapons, ‘claimed’ and ‘actual’ capabilities are often very different. A good case study is the much vaunted Zircon hypersonic cruise missile, one of This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up ’s six ‘superweapons’ that he announced to the world in 2018. The Zircon is hypersonic. Technically this merely means This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , faster than five times the speed of sound: but there are weapons which do this – for instance normal nuclear ICBM warheads re-entering the atmosphere – which aren’t called ‘hypersonic’. Then, among hypersonics, there are various different things one might mean. The Zircon is what’s known as a ‘hypersonic cruise’ missile. As a cruise missile it flies along within the atmosphere under propulsion for most or all of its flight: rather like a normal, subsonic missile like the famous US Tomahawk or Russian Kalibr. Both of these are essentially robotic jet aeroplanes on one-way missions, though some versions of Kalibr can go supersonic on rockets during their final run in to the target, to make them ******* to ****** down. Zircon is different. It doesn’t use a jet engine, nor even seemingly a ramjet: normal ramjets top out between Mach 3 and Mach 4. Zircon has a ‘scramjet’, a ramjet which can ***** fuel inside itself in an air flow moving at supersonic speeds – This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up . Getting one of these to work is traditionally described as ‘like trying to light a match in a hurricane’. It’s even ******* if you don’t want to use troublesome hydrogen fuel, as you probably don’t want to. The scramjet permits the missile to fly at better than Mach 5 without using a rocket or leaving the atmosphere. In theory then, we have a missile which could travel a very long way, staying low above the wave tops like a Tomahawk or a Kalibr, but enormously faster. That would, indeed, be a super *******. But there are reasons to think that Zircon is not all that ****** cracked it up to be – and more reasons all the time, as it is now being used in the Ukraine war. Even before the wider war in Ukraine, at nine metres long and 60cm around, rocket scientists and missile spotters were immediately sceptical about the Zircon’s claimed 1000 km range and a top speed of Mach 8. Physics trumps ***********. Additionally, This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up over the pace of development. Supposedly, Zircon was first tested in 2015, had been fired ten times by 2018, was fired from a ship in 2020, from a submarine in 2021 and then was declared operational in 2022 – and all this with zero failures. This would be very quick for even a regular boring missile, much less one as cutting edge as Zircon claims to be. Actual data is hard to come by as usage has been low, perhaps as low as five times. The one occasion where there is solid evidence that Zircon had been used in anger in Ukraine, the missile wreckage was found in the vicinity of a non-military target – not something a super ******* would be aimed at – suggesting that the mighty Zircon either missed its target or was shot down. Kinzhal, another member of This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , has been used many times in Ukraine and so provides better data. Kinzhal’s claimed top speed of Mach 7 (or perhaps Mach 10 after launch from a Russian jet itself moving at better than Mach 3) actually appears to be nearer Mach 5 – and this is during its high altitude phase. As Kinzhal descends towards its target it slows to ‘just’ Mach 1.9. This is a fairly normal missile or jet speed which is now well within the operating parameters of the famous *********-made Patriot interceptor which has done well against Kinzhal many times. It seems more than likely that Zircon’s hypersonic capability, if it is real, can only be achieved as in the case of the Kinzhal – at high altitudes, which it is probably required to reach to achieve long ranges. If employed as a low-flying classic cruise *******, it is probably not all that much more dangerous than a terminally-supersonic Kalibr variant. The other good news is that the more these fast moving threats are intercepted, the more informed the many algorithms required to do so become. There is no better equipment test environment than live operations. One thing is clear: Kinzhal, and probably Zircon, are not the super-weapons that ****** said in 2018 “were impossible for America to intercept or defeat”. Obviously as a former navy anti-air-warfare specialist I am most interested in weapons like Zircon (and Kinzhal) for what they could mean in the maritime environment – the more so as there’s a large fleet of US, British and other warships This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up . So first, we see from Ukraine that Patriot can beat Kinzhal and – probably – Zircon. Then we need to remember that Patriot is not the best anti-air defence on offer: it is limited by what you can or would put on trucks. ********* Standard Missiles (SMs) shot from Aegis warships are generally deemed to be much more capable than Patriot. SM-3s can bring down ballistic weapons soaring through space, or targets in low orbit. SM-2s are spec’d to deal with supersonic inbound threats like Kalibr and Kinzhal, and may well be able to deal with Zircon at shorter ranges. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , and probably able to deal with such weapons in their hypersonic flight phases. The Aster missile of the Royal and French navies is in the same general class as these. Western naval task forces have weapons which can defeat ******’s super weapons, then. But there is still the matter of reaction times, should one be fired at you. I wrote here a while ago that This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up have about a minute from detecting an Iranian anti-ship ballistic missile going ‘feet wet’ until it hits them. This means their decision window to decide and then ***** back is in fact about thirty seconds. Something travelling at Mach 8, if it was flying low skimming the wave tops (as we have seen, Zircon probably can’t do this) might be picked up on a warship’s radar say 30 miles away: perhaps 18 seconds out. This can lead to the assumption that no system (or at least not one with humans in it) can respond in time, once we’ve allowed some seconds for spilling tea, exclaiming rude words, interceptor launch and tip over etc. But, as ever, it’s not that simple. Firstly, the chances are that the Vampire (that’s the brevity codeword for a hostile anti-ship missile) will have been detected some time beforehand by a friendly radar aircraft, high overhead and so able to see much further: perhaps an This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up . There are other ways for a warship to know that such a threat is incoming before it actually appears above the radar horizon. In some cases it will be possible to ****** while the incoming missile is still below the horizon: the SM-6 has proven this in testing. Then, moving missiles around ashore, either to a fixed launch site, on a mobile one or to a ship, submarine or aircraft that can ***** them are all vulnerabilities – as is moving that platform into a position where it can *****. Finding your target out at sea in order to ****** at it – locating and tracking a Western warship, or a selected merchant vessel – is not simple. Although it can be done by satellite in some circumstances, this is not as easy as Hollywood would have you believe. Many Houthi missiles simply fall into the sea, or hit ships they clearly weren’t intended to. Other methods of targeting are counter-detectable: a warship lit up by radar will be warned that trouble is coming and what direction it’s coming from. Once fired, the system has to work in all conditions. Then it has to penetrate the layers of detection and defensive measures that the good guys (hopefully) have in place, ideally across a range of allied nations. A Russian warship launches a missile at a target in Ukraine. Will it work? Maybe not – Russian Defense Ministry Press Service/via AP Then, the faster the missile travels the ******* it is to knock down but then it’s also ******* for the missile to communicate, use radar and therefore manoeuvre if you have moved, which in a ship, you will have done. At hypersonic velocity, a missile will be travelling inside a This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up – as happens to a spacecraft during re-entry – cutting it off from all sensor and communication inputs. In such a flight regime, its chance of hitting a moving target is basically nil. This is probably why the Kinzhal (and almost certainly the Zircon) slow down in their terminal phase. If all this sounds as if there are too many uncertainties to decide who wins in any given engagement then that is exactly the point. And this is before the ability to reload and sustain are factored in. There are people who work in highly secure secret facilities who do these sums for a living but even they are often working on incomplete data and assumptions and you won’t read their findings here. In other words, the next time someone says that there is a new superweapon that renders vessel x, y or z redundant, treat that information with caution: as ****** has learned with Kinzhal in Ukraine, and is This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up . ‘Does it work in the lab’, ‘does it work in test conditions’, ‘does it work in real-world conditions’ (i.e. rubbish weather, heat, cold etc) and ‘does it work when someone is ********* back’ all provide different outcomes, but it’s surprising how often people jump from lab announcement (exaggerated) straight to “warships or submarines or aircraft carriers are now redundant”. So the cat and mouse continues. Is Zircon an undefeatable superweapon: no. Is learning how to counter it difficult, yes. Will building our own hypersonic equivalent take time and consume resources, yes…lots. For all the talk of superweapons, remember that today Russia is having to put concrete barges in place across the entrance to the Novorossiysk docks in the eastern ****** Sea to stop Ukrainian Magura V5s – basically robotised speedboats – from entering it and destroying yet more of the ****** Sea fleet. This is what ‘real-world effective’ vs ‘spec sheet super’ looks like. Logistics, training, daring, bravery and ingenuity still count for more in warfare than capabilities on paper. Tom Sharpe is a former Royal Navy officer. He commanded various warships, including a surface combatant, and specialised in anti-air warfare This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up ******,Zircon,cruise missile,Kinzhal,target,Ukraine,hypersonic flight #Putins #hypersonic #Zircon #superweapon #combat #specialist #impressed This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Link to comment https://hopzone.eu/forums/topic/9927-putin%E2%80%99s-hypersonic-%E2%80%98zircon%E2%80%99-super-weapon-has-now-seen-combat-as-a-specialist-i%E2%80%99m-not-impressed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
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